Correspondence with British Postal Museum and Archive

Corrections for Hong Kong box
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Emma Harper <emma.harper@postalheritage.org.uk> 9 May 2013 at 22:47
To: “lemonrunner@gmail.com” <lemonrunner@gmail.com>

Cc: Info Mailbox <info@postalheritage.org.uk>, curatorial <curatorial@postalheritage.org.uk>

Dear Sin Wai Man

Many thanks for your email and pointing out the mistakes on our online catalogue. You are quite correct that 2002-0011/2 wall box is indeed George VI, as is the pillar box we have is as well (2002-0011/1), with /3 as a George V cipher. We will make these corrections on our database and they will eventually appear corrected on our online catalogue, although not until the next upload which may not be for a few months. The history of the boxes is fascinating, as you say, that the designs for the cipher are unique to these boxes as a more elaborate version of the ciphers that appear on boxes from that reign in England. We are very pleased to hear that there is a group dedicated to their preservation.

Many thanks again and best wishes,

Emma Harper

Curator (Move Planning)

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—–Original Message—–

From: Sin Wai Man [mailto:lemonrunner@gmail.com]

Sent: 08 May 2013 14:20

To: Info Mailbox

Subject: Wrong Info re two postboxes from Hong Kong owned by BPMA

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am a leader of a group in Hong Kong dedicated to historic postbox preservation. Recently, It has come to my attention that BPMA has in its storage three postboxes from Hong Kong. While checking them out on your online catalogue, some mistakes regarding two of the boxes’ history have been noticed:

1.    The Wall Box with Ref No 2002-0011/2 <http://catalogue.postalheritage.org.uk/dserve/dserve.exe?dsqServer=localhost&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqPos=134&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29%3D%27hong+kong%27%29>  which is now described as a George V box is in fact a George  VI (if you examine the cipher carefully you will see it is VI instead of V). For your reference, you can check photos of the other two Hong Kong boxes with the same design of the GRVI cipher in Hong Kong at my team’s website: link 1 <http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/726382665/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92-227/> , link 2 <http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/719560879/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E8%B5%A4%E6%9F%B1%E8%88%8A%E7%B4%85%E8%89%B2%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92/> .

2.    The dates for George V Wall Box (Ref No  <http://catalogue.postalheritage.org.uk/dserve/dserve.exe?dsqServer=localhost&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqPos=135&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29%3D%27hong+kong%27%29> 2002-0011/3 <http://catalogue.postalheritage.org.uk/dserve/dserve.exe?dsqServer=localhost&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqPos=135&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29%3D%27hong+kong%27%29> ) are now wrongly given as 1936-1952.

Also, according to my team’s research, the designs for the GRV and GRVI ciphers on Hong Kong postboxes are not found anywhere else in the world; this we thought BPMA may wish to note.

Yours faithfully,

Sin Wai Man


Hong Kong Postbox Search Team

Website: http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/

Blog: http://hksearch.weebly.com/

Old Postboxes Map: http://goo.gl/maps/lhVw


Letter to the Post Office

Reply from the Post Office (7 May 2013) 
Below is their reply that I just received. Very responsive and forthcoming; much appreciated; hope the issue can be resolved soon. 

“Dear Mr. Sin,

Thank you for your mail dated 5 May infor
ming us of the irregularity observed on the newly painted historic posting boxes. We have also noted
this irregularity and the coating advisor of the contractor is investigating the root cause of the irregularity. Apart from posting box no. 91, 235 and 230, we also observed the same irregularity from the other three posting boxes no. 227, 256 and 401 that have recently undergone preservation work. There is no conclusive finding at the moment. The
contractor has been urged to find out the root cause of the irregularity and take remedial action as soon as possible.

Thanks again for bringing this to my attention. I will let you know when the investigation result is received.

With best regards,
Our letter to the Post Office (5 May 2013)
Dear Ms Chung,
My team has now visited another three of the nine historic postboxes that we understood to have undergone preservation work recently. Quite to our surprise, two categories of issues with the work are already noticeable. As attaching the photos may exceed the allowed capacity of this email, I have placed them on this online album for your reference: https://picasaweb.google.com/107939761065063166674/Postboxes91235239?authuser=0&feat=directlink
  1. Paint Peel-Off: On the KGV box No.91 in Kwun Tong we noticed at least three different spots of paint peel-off. We fear that some of these will create pockets of space that may collect water, which may eventually lead to rusting. On the oval-shaped box No. 239 in Central, we also found a minor paint peel-off. 
  2. Dark Spots Underneath/Inside the Paint Coating: These are noticeable on the Lei Yue Mun KGV box No.235 and also No.91 in Kwun Tong.

Given the recency of the preservation work, we think these are unusual. It seems to us a new type of paint (which has a more glossy look) is now used and we suspect the paint peel-off and the dark spots may be related to this new paint and/or poor workmanship.

Given the importance of these heritage postboxes, we hope these issues will be looked into as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Sin Wai Man

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