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搜索隊回報 – 郵筒202

2016覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 14/12/2016

地 點:慈雲山 慈正村 正暉樓 (on Google Map, 經緯度 Coordinates: 22°21′ 1.67″ 114°12′ 1.95″)

QEII (ERII) 伊利沙伯二世 (1952-)

Manufacturer: Carron Company, Stirlingshire (?)

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記 錄 員: 0095 四眼仔隊員

記 錄 日 期: 3/7/2016

 

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記 錄 日 期: 6/4/2016

記 錄 員 : 0024 雲中君隊員

 

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記 錄 日 期: 08/02/2016

記 錄 員 : 0073 側藤隊員

 

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2015覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 10/12/2015

地 點:慈雲山 慈正村 正暉樓 (on Google Map)

QEII (ERII) 伊利沙伯二世 (1952-)

Manufacturer: Carron Company, Stirlingshire (?)

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記 錄 日 期: 14/3/2015

記 錄 員 : 0073 側藤隊員

 

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2014覆檢 (link

記 錄 日 期: 12/10/2014

記 錄 員 : 0051 小K隊員

 

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2013覆檢 (link)

記 錄 日 期: 1/10/2013

記 錄 員 : 0051 小K隊員

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2012覆檢 (link)

記 錄 日 期: 30/10/2012

記 錄 員 : 0055 小英隊員

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郵筒202重置

記 錄 日 期: 6/10/2011

記 錄 員 : 001 檸檬頭隊長

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Major and pleasant surprise

Following my yesterday’s (2/5/2011) email to the relevant authorities, I, rather unexpectedly, received a really swift reply from Hongkong Post informing the old postbox is indeed only temporarily removed due to road work by the Highways Department.

I think that’s really good news and it also seems to show Hongkong Post is making a conscientious effort in retaining the old boxes. Below is their reply and my short response.

P.S. I think this also shows what we are doing – checking up on the postboxes latest conditions and writing to the relevant departments to put pressure on them when necessary – is really useful and, dare I say, making a difference.

On 3 May 2011 17:12, Matthew Wong  wrote:

Dear Mr. SIN,

Due to the road construction work by Highways Department, the old posting no. 202 is temporarily removed and a temporary posting box was set up to maintain the service. The old posting box no. 202 is now kept in our office. Once the work is completed, the box will be reinstated at the original location.

Should you require any further information, please feel free to call me at 2356 2501.

Thanks and end

Matthew WONG

Manager (Network)

Hongkong Post

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Dear Mr Wong,

Many thanks and I think I can speak for all old colonial-era postboxes lovers in Hong Kong that that is very good news.

Yours sincerely,

Sin Wai Man

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2011覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 0051 小K隊員

記 錄 日 期: 02/05/2011

地 點: 慈雲山 慈正村 正暉樓 (on Google Map)

QEII (ERII) 伊利沙伯二世 (1952-)

Manufacturer: Carron Company, Stirlingshire

Very Bad news: The old beautiful QEII pillar box has now been replaced by a rather characterless new box. As the new one is not permanently implanted into the ground yet and there is some construction work going on near the postbox, there may be a chance that it’s a temporary replacement of the old. We’ve written to the relevant department to demand an explanation now. Let’s see.

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From: Sin Wai Man

To: “Alfred P TANG, Commissioner for Heritage’s Office”

C.C.: “Mr Clement Cheung, Postmaster General”, “Mrs Laura Aron, Commissioner for Heritage”, “marychung@hkpo.gov.hk”

Re: Fw: Preservation of Old Postboxes in HK

Dear Mr Tang,

I am writing again to raise my concern about the fate of an old Queen Elizabeth II pillar postbox No.202 originally located at Ching Fai House, Tsz Ching Estate, Tsz Wan Shan Road with the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office and the Hongkong Post.

It is noticed that this old box has now been removed and replaced by a new one (photos for the old and new No.202 attached, or they can be viewed at these links: old http://www.flickr.com/photos/39410684@N02/3694678204/, new http://www.flickr.com/photos/52300433@N03/5678599663/).

In your previous email to me dated 13 July 2010, you said, in explaining why the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office has only planned to preserve nine old postboxes, “In addition to the aforementioned oval-shaped post box, there are 48 other post boxes cast during the reign of Queen Elizabeth II in Hong Kong.  They are still in service and Hongkong Post currently has no plan to remove them.  They are therefore not covered in our current discussion with Hongkong Post focusing on preserving the nine post boxes.”

As shown in the photo of the old No.202 taken back in 2009 I attached, this old pillar box was still then in very good condition and therefore there did not seem to be any legitimate reasons for the Hongkong Post to retire it.

To all heritage-concerned members of the public and especially the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office which seems to have entrusted the Hongkong Post to maintain these other old postboxes not included in the 9-box preservation plan, I believe, Hongkong Post owes an explanation.

Yours sincerely,

Sin Wai Man

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地 點:慈雲山 慈正村 正暉樓

記 錄 日 期: 7/2009

記 錄 員 : 0031 珍寳珠隊員

附:  香港舊郵筒地圖 + 搜索隊網上相簿 + Online location list

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搜索隊回報 – 郵筒438

2016覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 14/12/2016

地 點: 大窩坪 筆架山花園 英語學校旁 (on Google Map, 經緯度 Coordinates: 22° 20′ 32.91″, 114° 10′ 0.35″)

QEII (ERII) 伊利沙伯二世 (1952-)

Manufacturer: W T Allen & Co Ltd, London

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記 錄 員: 0096小吉士隊員

記 錄 日 期: 17/3/2016

 

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2015覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 10/12/2015

 

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2014覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 13/12/2014

 

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2013覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 18/11/2013

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記 錄 員: 0073 側藤隊員

記 錄 日 期: 1/5/2013

 

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2012覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 31/10/2012

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Good News@20/6/2011: Broken part fixed.

記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 07/04/2011

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2011覆檢 (link)

記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 07/04/2011

地 點: 大窩坪 筆架山花園 英語學校旁 (on Google Map)

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We have sent the following email regarding the condition of this box to the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office on 7 April 2011 

in Wai Man <lemonrunner@gmail.com>
to alfred_p_tang@devb.gov.hk
cc “Mr Clement Cheung, Postmaster General” <hkpo@hkpo.gov.hk>,
“Mrs Laura Aron, Commissioner for Heritage” <cho@devb.gov.hk>
bcc Sin Wai Man <lemonrunner@gmail.com>
date 7 April 2011 22:44
subject Re: Fw: Preservation of Old Postboxes in HK
mailed-by gmail.com
hide details 7 Apr (6 days ago) 

Dear Mr Tang,

Further to my last year’s correspondence with you, I am writing to bring to the attention of the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office and the Hongkong Post of the precarious condition of Postbox 438 at Beacon Height, Tai Wo Ping, Kowloon.

When I visited that postbox today, I noticed part of the front of the box (the frame-like part) has partially come off (please see attached photos 1 and 2 or, alternatively, they can be viewed at this link http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/725718106/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92438/ as the third and fourth pictures). Although there seems no danger of its completely coming off, I think it would be prudent to have that part fixed.

And I believe this is feasible as another postbox (No. 232 at On Hing House / Hing Wah (II) Estate, Chai Wan) which had a similar problem last year has now been so mended (apparently by welding the coming-off part bak to the main body; please see third attached picture or photos at this link http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/725717009/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92-232/). I sincerely hope this will not be taken by Hongkong Post as an opportunity to remove this wall-mounted ERII box, especially given its uniqueness for being taller and slimmer than most other wall-mounted boxes in Hong Kong. Should that happen it would make a mockery of the joint effort of the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office and Hongkong Post to preserve the other chosen nine postboxes.

You may wish to note that my friends and I who are all enthusiastic about historical postbox preservation in Hong Kong are endeavouring to inspect all known old postboxes to see how they have fared in the past year and to document their latest conditions. Our findings will be shared on this Facebook page:  http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=163686143684546 and this blog: http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/

Yours sincerely,

Sin Wai Man

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Its reply informing the email has been forwarded to Hongkong Post

alfred_p_tang@devb.gov.hk
to Sin Wai Man <lemonrunner@gmail.com>
cc “marychung@hkpo.gov.hk” <marychung@hkpo.gov.hk>
date 11 April 2011 09:26
subject Re: Fw: Preservation of Old Postboxes in HK
mailed-by devb.gov.hk
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Dear Mr Siu, 

Thank you for your e-mail of 7 April 2011.  We have referred your request to the Hong Kong Post for follow up and they will contact you direct. 

Thanks again for your concern on heritage conservation. 


Alfred P TANG
Commissioner for Heritage’s Office
Development Bureau

 

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記 錄 員: 001 檸檬頭隊長

記 錄 日 期: 20/04/2010

地 點: 大窩坪 筆架山花園 英語學校旁

Manufacturer: W T Allen & Co Ltd, London

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Hi Everyone,

 

 

I think overall this year’s exercise has been a success. Hongkong Post has quietly fixed a postbox that we alerted them of its need to be so fixed (I said quietly because they didn’t reply to my email but just went ahead and did the repair; for the same reason I’m hopeful that they will “quietly” do something to the several postboxes that we’ve written them about; they’ve so far given a rather vague and non-committal reply) and assured us that another one is just being temporarily removed due to roadwork in response to our another email. 

 

 

Also, despite the poor conditions of a few boxes, the overall picture is quite promising: none of the 60 that we have access to (the Shau Tau Kok and Shek Pik boxes we cannot get to) has been permanently removed and most have been repainted and are in fairly good conditions.

 

 

I believe what we have been doing has made a difference to historic postbox preservation in HK and I think we can all take pride in that.

 

 

We shall do another checkup next year in autumn/winter and I will set up another event on FB and invite you then. See you all soon.

 

 

 

With warmest wishes,

 

 

Captain Lemonhead / Sin Wai Man

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Commissioner for Heritage’s Office’s reply

Commissioner for Heritage’s Office’s reply to our letter on the wanting conditions of several historic postboxes

This is a rather vague, non-committal reply, which is somehow expected – well, afterall, the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office has only limited remit of authority and cannot speak for Hongkong Post or order it around.  I am hopeful that Hongkong Post will “quietly” (i.e. without informing us) fix the 6 postboxes for which we have expressed concern about their conditions ( there was one we wrote them about that Hongkong Post has fixed “quietly”) and I’ll check on them again to see if there’s any improvement in the next couple of months.

 

(Our original letter: http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/752025212/letter-to-the-commissioner-for-heritages-office/)

 

 

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from alfred_p_tang@devb.gov.hk to Sin Wai Man <lemonrunner></lemonrunner>

cc karwy.fung@devb.gov.hk,

wbenq@devb.gov.hk,

marychung@hkpo.gov.hk

date 22 July 2011 17:08

subject Re: Fw: Preservation of Old Postboxes in HK mailed-by devb.gov.hk

Important mainly because of the people in the conversation.

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Dear Mr Sin, 

 

Thank you for your e-mail dated 7 July 2011 sharing with us your valuable information on the conditions of a number of historic post boxes.   

 

You may wish to note that Hongkong Post (HKP) is providing general maintenance for the posting boxes through routine maintenance by its contractor.  We are working with HKP to monitor the condition of and identifying preservation options for the nine posting boxes identified because we believe in-service and in-situ preservation would be the best option to be explored first.  

 

Regarding the Edward VII posting box mentioned by you, we understand that there is one currently reserved by HKP  for future display purpose. HKP did not recommended it to be put into service again and will arrange to display it when there are suitable occasions. 

 

Thank you once again for your valuable suggestions. 

 

 

Alfred P TANG

Commissioner for Heritage’s Office

Development Bureau

Tel. no. 2848 6235

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Reply from Commissioner for Heritage’s Office received on 22 July 2011: link

Letter to the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office on the wanting conditions of several historic postboxes

From “Sin Wai Man” <lemonrunner></lemonrunner>

To “Alfred P TANG, Commissioner for Heritage’s Office” <alfred_p_tang></alfred_p_tang>

cc “Mr Clement Cheung, Postmaster General” <hkpo>,</hkpo>

“Mrs Laura Aron, Commissioner for Heritage” <cho>,</cho>

marychung@hkpo.gov.hk

bcc Sin Wai Man <lemonrunner></lemonrunner>

date 7 July 2011 12:43 subject Re: Fw: Preservation of Old Postboxes in HK mailed-by gmail.com

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Dear Mr Tang,

 

I take the liberty of writing you again to bring to your attention the wanting conditions of several historic postboxes – especially two King George V boxes which are included in the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office’s nine-postbox preservation plan mentioned in 活化@Heritage Issue No. 13, June 2010 – that my friends and I have noticed in our endeavour to do an annual check up for all historic postboxes in Hong Kong.

 

The two KGV postboxes which require prompt attentions are:

  1. Postbox No.91, 22-24 Hong Lee Road, Hong Lee Court, Crocodile Hill, Kwun Tong: paint peel off and rust. Photos available athttp://hkpostbox.xanga.com/725717704/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92-91
  2. Postbox No.235, 1A Hoi Phong Road, Lei Yu Mun: part covered with a thick layer of dark dirt/mold. Photos athttp://hkpostbox.xanga.com/725717361/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92-235/

The following Queen Elizabeth II boxes are also found to be in wanting conditions:

  1. Postbox No.370, Tai Mong Tsai Bus Terminal, Sai Kung: horridly uneven paint and rust all over the lower half of this box (which seemed to be caused by deficient paintmanship and/or maintenance)http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/726268615/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92370/
  2. Postbox No.90: 53 Kwun Tong Road, Kai Tak Mansion: paint peel off and rust.http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/701388581/2562832034385382223822577—371093157090/
  3. Postbox No.96: Castle Peak Road, Seaview Garden, Tsing Yung Street: paint peel off.http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/726235356/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%9296/  
  4. Postbox No.162, Fu On House,Tai Wo Hau Estate: graffiti defacement.http://hkpostbox.xanga.com/717768245/%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2%E9%9A%8A%E5%9B%9E%E5%A0%B1—–%E9%83%B5%E7%AD%92162/?

I hope that attentions in the form of regular maintenance and repainting will be accorded to these living historic relics in Hong Kong. 

 

Also, as there is currently no Edward VII postbox present either on the streets or museums of Hong Kong and I understand there is still one such pillar box in storage by Hongkong Post, I would like to suggest that the Commissioner for Heritage’s Office explore with Hongkong Post the possibility of either re-installing it in active service or displaying it in a suitable museum or venue. 

 

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Sin Wai Man

 

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